Greatest SXE & HARDCORE Bands

[sXe Matt Sxe]

yes. have heart, verse, blue monday, the answer.
never heard them are they signed or local bands and stuff

[xsecx]

never heard them are they signed or local bands and stuff

they're all pretty prominent edge bands right now? The real question now is do you like modern hardcore since you apparently haven't heard much.

[straightXed]

yes. have heart, verse, blue monday, the answer.

I'm really looking forward to seeing blue monday.

[sXe Matt Sxe]

they're all pretty prominent edge bands right now? The real question now is do you like modern hardcore since you apparently haven't heard much.
i like bury your dead, remembering never, sinai beach, and the heavy stuff

[xsecx]

i like bury your dead, remembering never, sinai beach, and the heavy stuff

yeah. those aren't hardcore bands.

[sXe Matt Sxe]

they are all straight edge and call them metalcore or some crazy genre i dont care

[xsecx]

they are all straight edge and call them metalcore or some crazy genre i dont care

byd isn't an edge band and isn't hardcore. and the only thing I know about remembering never is that stupid shit with Lit. either way, you might want to listen to some hardcore if you're going to talk about it.

[stepinsideissue]

yes. have heart, verse, blue monday, the answer.


Have heart is good. I've heard of blue monday but never heard their suff and I've never heard of the other 2. See xsecx another Victory records fan. Matt maybe in the old days Victory was all hXc but alot of it is metal except Voodoo Glow Skulls. Some good metal bands but alas metal and not sXe hXc.

[stepinsideissue]

they are all straight edge and call them metalcore or some crazy genre i dont care


I was under the impression alot of them were too but do your homework. Alot of them I thought were aren't.

[xsecx]

Have heart is good. I've heard of blue monday but never heard their suff and I've never heard of the other 2. See xsecx another Victory records fan. Matt maybe in the old days Victory was all hXc but alot of it is metal except Voodoo Glow Skulls. Some good metal bands but alas metal and not sXe hXc.

given that kids taste in music, I wouldn't be proud of the fact that you found another one.

[stepinsideissue]

given that kids taste in music, I wouldn't be proud of the fact that you found another one.

Ha ha ha ha. I wouldn't call it proud, just suprised. I know you probably won't agree but a couple of those bands aren't bad ( and they're not the greatest either ) just not hXc. I'm just surprised that some one else likes stuff put out by Victory besides me.

[straightXed]

Ha ha ha ha. I wouldn't call it proud, just suprised. I know you probably won't agree but a couple of those bands aren't bad ( and they're not the greatest either ) just not hXc. I'm just surprised that some one else likes stuff put out by Victory besides me.

You thought you were the only one that bought the records?

[stepinsideissue]

You thought you were the only one that bought the records?

It's been awhile since I've boughten anything from Victory but I sorta like some of the stuff that is recorded on their lable.

And yeah I thought I was the only one who like stuff from Victory.

[straightXed]

And yeah I thought I was the only one who like stuff from Victory.


How could you think that?

[sXe Matt Sxe]

byd isn't an edge band and isn't hardcore. and the only thing I know about remembering never is that stupid shit with Lit. either way, you might want to listen to some hardcore if you're going to talk about it.
actually bury your dead is straight edge or at least most of their members are, and i like victory, metal blade(yea i like death metal), and truskill, and solid state, so pretty much anything metal

[stepinsideissue]

How could you think that?


Why are you a fan of Victory and the stuff they put out now.

[xsecx]

actually bury your dead is straight edge or at least most of their members are, and i like victory, metal blade(yea i like death metal), and truskill, and solid state, so pretty much anything metal

3 members are, but having edge members doesn't mean edge band. you also just listed the worst labels in existance right now, check out stuff on bridge 9, think fast and rivalry. metal isn't hardcore.

[stepinsideissue]

actually bury your dead is straight edge or at least most of their members are, and i like victory, metal blade(yea i like death metal), and truskill, and solid state, so pretty much anything metal


Most of the members are sXe does not a sXe band make. ( Yoda moment )

[stepinsideissue]

3 members are, but having edge members doesn't mean edge band. you also just listed the worst labels in existance right now, check out stuff on bridge 9, think fast and rivalry. metal isn't hardcore.


Bridge 9 is good. http://www.b9store.com

and so is Rivalry and RevHQ

[sXe Matt Sxe]

alright ill check them out but i never said that those labels were hardcore i like metal dead to fall is probly my favorite band now and most new victory bands suck they are all screamo i also like hardcore i listened to minor threat before i knew what straight edge and hardcore was and black flag and stuff

[sXe Matt Sxe]

Bridge 9 is good. http://www.b9store.com

and so is Rivalry and RevHQ
i looked at that website and they look pretty rad but i need to hear some music i dont have limewire or anything

[xsecx]

i looked at that website and they look pretty rad but i need to hear some music i dont have limewire or anything

go to the label's sites, they have mp3's.

[stepinsideissue]

i looked at that website and they look pretty rad but i need to hear some music i dont have limewire or anything


Sorry wrong link. Try this. http://www.bridge9.com/bridgenine/home.php

[sXe Matt Sxe]

Sorry wrong link. Try this. http://www.bridge9.com/bridgenine/home.php
i found them and that shit is realy kick ass thanks for telling me about it guys

[sXe Matt Sxe]

but i still like throwdown haha

[stepinsideissue]

but i still like throwdown haha


* just shakes head *


By the way I just downloaded mp3 " Let It Out" by Blue Monday. Go get that one. Thanks xsecx.

[sXe Matt Sxe]

* just shakes head *


By the way I just downloaded mp3 " Let It Out" by Blue Monday. Go get that one. Thanks xsecx.
haha, i did get that one its bad ass, im gonna have to find out where to get these cd's

[stepinsideissue]

haha, i did get that one its bad ass, im gonna have to find out where to get these cd's


From that web site but the store which was the first link I posted.

[straightXed]

Why are you a fan of Victory and the stuff they put out now.

No, unless you are still counting A18.

[sXe Matt Sxe]

what is A18, and i hate ordering things from websites but i guess i will

[flame_still_burns]

* just shakes head *


By the way I just downloaded mp3 " Let It Out" by Blue Monday. Go get that one. Thanks xsecx.


the back up vocals in particular are really fucking great don't you agree? they really make the song. in fact the song would a be a complete failure without them, for sure.

[stepinsideissue]

the back up vocals in particular are really fucking great don't you agree? they really make the song. in fact the song would a be a complete failure without them, for sure.

I don't know about a complete failure but the back ground vocals were pretty damn sweet.

[sXe Matt Sxe]

what is A18 and yea the back up vocals were badace

[straightXed]

what is A18, and i hate ordering things from websites but i guess i will

Its a band, a good band.

[sXe Matt Sxe]

its a band, a good band.
on victoy?

[flame_still_burns]

i was only kidding about the background vocals making the song... i'm part of the background vocals and i was being a dork about it for that reason.

[straightXed]

on victoy?

Yeah, the band is done though.

[stepinsideissue]

i was only kidding about the background vocals making the song... i'm part of the background vocals and i was being a dork about it for that reason.


How's that being a dork? If I was in some badass backing vocals I'd brag too.

[stepinsideissue]

on victoy?


Nerver mind I fucked up.

[sXe Matt Sxe]

Nerver mind I fucked up.
ok

[Jay-p]

i would say my favourite bands are
Terror
donny brook
laid to rest
refused
figure four ( sxe christian hardcore )
50 on red
on thin ice
break it up
what hope remains

[xsecx]

i would say my favourite bands are
figure four ( sxe christian hardcore )


complete contradiction in terms.

[xRodboi!x]

ten yard fight
gorilla biscuits
minor threat
shutdown
reaching forward
refused
kid dynamite
casey jones
comeback kid
warzone
youth of today
bane
vitamin x
good clean fun
stretch arm strong
slapshot
h20
earth crisis
25 ta life

i think that's all for the straight edge bands

[straightXed]

ten yard fight
gorilla biscuits
minor threat
shutdown
reaching forward
refused
kid dynamite
casey jones
comeback kid
warzone
youth of today
bane
vitamin x
good clean fun
stretch arm strong
slapshot
h20
earth crisis
25 ta life

i think that's all for the straight edge bands

They aren't all straightedge bands

[xRodboi!x]

They aren't all straightedge bandsehhh...sorry.what are the non edge bands i've quoted?

[straightXed]

h2o
stretch arm strong
bane
shutdown

[xRodboi!x]

h2o
stretch arm strong
bane
shutdown
i thought h20 was sxe because toby morse is

[straightXed]

i thought h20 was sxe because toby morse is

Only toby morse is, the rest are a bunch of drunks really!

[xsecx]

They aren't all straightedge bands

comeback kid isn't either.

[gatsaw]

bane


comeback kid isn't either.
i thought both were. haven´t they been or something? or am i totally wrong? (they are good though)

[xsecx]

i thought both were. haven´t they been or something? or am i totally wrong? (they are good though)

bane was at one point but isn't now. cbk I don't think ever was.

[gatsaw]

bane was at one point but isn't now. cbk I don't think ever was.
ok, but they are still gret bands.

[SgtD]

ok, but they are still gret bands.
i saw both on monday. they both sucked really hard. i knew cbk would, but bane was a huge letdown. talking/acting stupid 5 minutes after each song???!!! fuck that. the guitarist dude was the worst. he pulled down his pants, and always had something moronic to say.

[straightXed]

i saw both on monday. they both sucked really hard. i knew cbk would, but bane was a huge letdown. talking/acting stupid 5 minutes after each song???!!! fuck that. the guitarist dude was the worst. he pulled down his pants, and always had something moronic to say.

I was gonna go see Bane and CBK a couple of weeks ago, i didn't and for a time i wished i had gone. But with what you have said i think i made the right choice.

[SgtD]

I was gonna go see Bane and CBK a couple of weeks ago, i didn't and for a time i wished i had gone. But with what you have said i think i made the right choice.
most definitely. i wish i saw bane 3 years earlier. everyone said they were great then...oh well.

[gatsaw]

i saw both on monday. they both sucked really hard. i knew cbk would, but bane was a huge letdown. talking/acting stupid 5 minutes after each song???!!! fuck that. the guitarist dude was the worst. he pulled down his pants, and always had something moronic to say.
that sucks, i really thought that they at least would be ok live since i like their cd:s. i had a slight possibillity to see them last wendesday but it was too far away, and maybe that was good for me if they sucked that bad.

[xRodboi!x]

i wanted to know if the name of my band sucked.it sounds like a mix between rancid,murphy's law and ten yard fight

[Liefde]

xsecx just out of curiousity can you post the list of your favourite Straight Edge bands, just interested ^_^.
Thanks if you can reply.

[SgtD]

xsecx just out of curiousity can you post the list of your favourite Straight Edge bands, just interested ^_^.
Thanks if you can reply.
look at the second reply in this thread!

[Liefde]

Sorry heh, I swear I looked ><, thanks again I'll try to do more myself hehe, naturally lazy tis a curse.

[xsecx]

without putting too much thought into it

judge
gorilla biscuits
ensign
7 seconds
uniform choice
champion
cornerstone
trial
brotherhood

I would now replace champion with verse

[gatsaw]

I would now replace champion with verse
verse is real good, i only have rebuild though.

[xXxMirandaMaixXx]

I'm assuming it's favorites and not greatest bands...

In no order

Comeback Kid
Floorpunch
Kid Dynamite
Death Threat
Blackcross
Scraps and Heart Attacks
Comeback Kid
Blacklisted
Shockwave
Sworn Enemy
Kill Your Idols
Champion
Kids Like Us
Another Breath
Modern Life Is War
With Honor
Paint It Black
+ that bands most of you listed.


It's hard to limit myself to 10... I just have soo many and many more.


i fucking agree with you on all of those.....rock on

[xGriffox]

7 angels 7 plagues
C'mon you know you love 'em.

[xdaddydaycorex]

to my list i would now add the distance and blood red.

[Lifestyle_X]

Do Or Die !!!

[XJrigX]

umm...

death before dishonor
bulldoze
skarhead
gorilla biscuits
youth of today
floor punch
blue monday
betrayed
blood for blood
champion...

some others

[3kantino]

Hi! i'm spanish, and i'm new in sxs music....my english is a bit bad, but i'll try to make me understand
i wanted to ask you if someone meet any sxs group in spain or south america (i prefer spain because the spanish language is a little different)
waiting for replies, i'll start listening gorilla biscuits, and similar...

[xsecx]

Hi! i'm spanish, and i'm new in sxs music....my english is a bit bad, but i'll try to make me understand
i wanted to ask you if someone meet any sxs group in spain or south america (i prefer spain because the spanish language is a little different)
waiting for replies, i'll start listening gorilla biscuits, and similar...

los crudos wasn't edge, but the singer is. they're american, but all of the songs were in spanish.

and only band I can think of off the top of my head from spain is e150.

There are a fair amount of people on the site that speak spanish though so if you'd find it easier to post in spanish someone would be able to help.

[xbatmanx]

wow, i'm definitely not going to read all these replies. but i noticed that not a lot of people mentioned earth crisis, maybe only a few? i'm definitely more into them now than i even was in the mid-90s. they just get me so hyped and so nostalgic.
I'm going to see Ignite and Comeback Kid at the end of the month and I'm excited for that, I don't get to go to shows very often anymore with work and all.

[mouseman004]

wow, i'm definitely not going to read all these replies. but i noticed that not a lot of people mentioned earth crisis, maybe only a few? i'm definitely more into them now than i even was in the mid-90s. they just get me so hyped and so nostalgic.
I'm going to see Ignite and Comeback Kid at the end of the month and I'm excited for that, I don't get to go to shows very often anymore with work and all.

First Blood will be playing that show.....they are a great new band on trustkill (no debate as to hxc or not, dont want to start that, just a general comment)

[xbustedx]

wasn't there a thread just like this?

[XshiXnyX]

so are you telling me n-sync isnt hardcore?

oh god, my religion...

[xXxRoLLyxXx]

Norma Jean
As I lay Dying
Bleeding through
Embrace Today
The DIllinger Escape Plan
Hopesfall
Atreyu
Daughters
Black Flag
Earth Crisis
hell yeah i got to agree with you except black flag....as i lay dying is the bomb though they rock out sick live!

[xsecx]

hell yeah i got to agree with you except black flag....as i lay dying is the bomb though they rock out sick live!

so you pick out the one good band to disagree one.

[SgtD]

so you pick out the one good band to disagree one.
i was thinking the same

[rodrigo]

heh... that was a fun moment

[stepinsideissue]

When will you kids realize that Rollins is god.

[xGriffox]

i have one to add, Limp Wrist. Gay straight edge hardcore and awesome.

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

i have one to add, Limp Wrist. Gay straight edge hardcore and awesome.

gay meaning homosexual? cuz if so...I HAVE TO CHECK EM OUT!!!

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

hell yeah i got to agree with you except black flag....as i lay dying is the bomb though they rock out sick live!
most of those bands are metalcore.

atreyus new stuff is shitxcore.
Norma Jean is hardcore
AILD is metalcore
Bleeding THrough is metalcore (but they are sXe. they have a few sXe songs)

[xsecx]

gay meaning homosexual? cuz if so...I HAVE TO CHECK EM OUT!!!

yeah. it's the singer from Los Crudos and a few other guys.

[xsecx]

most of those bands are metalcore.
Norma Jean is hardcore


you get a thumbs down from the hardcore commitee.

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

you get a thumbs down from the hardcore commitee.

oh well. They're a genre that I can't classify. They have alot of hardcore elements, and less metal elements. They use alot of hardcore pieces, except they also use experimental things, like dissonence and odd timing. I guess I see how you think they're not hardcore, but I think they are.

oh by the way, this is by a musical standpoint.

[stepinsideissue]

most of those bands are metalcore.

atreyus new stuff is shitxcore.
Norma Jean is hardcore
AILD is metalcore
Bleeding THrough is metalcore (but they are sXe. they have a few sXe songs)


What the fuck is up with evrybody and the word metalcore??????

[XJrigX]

oh well. They're a genre that I can't classify. They have alot of hardcore elements, and less metal elements. They use alot of hardcore pieces, except they also use experimental things, like dissonence and odd timing. I guess I see how you think they're not hardcore, but I think they are.

oh by the way, this is by a musical standpoint.

Norma Jean are Tech Metal.

[XJrigX]

Best SXE BANDS

CARRY ON
JUDGE
WIDE AWAKE (I THINK THEY ARE EDGE)
GORILLA BISCUITS
YOUTH OF TODAY
BETRAYED
CHAMPION
XLOOKING FORWARDX
XDEATHSTARX
GOOD CLEAN FUN
TEN YARD FIGHT
STAND & FIGHT
OVER MY DEAD BODY
ONE LIFE CREW (I DONT AGREE WITH THE HATE-EDGE THINK BUT I LIKE THERE MUSIC)

AND MANY MORE...

BEST NON SXE BANDS

DEATH THREAT
MADBALL
SKARHEAD
CROWN OF THORNZ
CRO-MAGS
BAD BRAINS
BLOOD FOR BLOOD
INDECISION
SICK OF IT ALL
IRONBOUND NYC
RAMALLAH
THE PROMISE
STRIFE (ACTUALLY I THINK THEY ARE EDGE)
WARZONE
WITH HONOR
OUTBREAK
DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR

[straightXed]

GOOD CLEAN FUN

ONE LIFE CREW (I DONT AGREE WITH THE HATE-EDGE THINK BUT I LIKE THERE MUSIC)

THE PROMISE
STRIFE (ACTUALLY I THINK THEY ARE EDGE)




Get rid of gcf, put the promise on the edge list because they completely edge. And strife aren't edge although they were.

And i have to ask how you can like a hardcore band without liking what they stand for or sing about? just wondered really.

[XJrigX]

Get rid of gcf, put the promise on the edge list because they completely edge. And strife aren't edge although they were.

And i have to ask how you can like a hardcore band without liking what they stand for or sing about? just wondered really.

Well, I like some of One Life Crew's message like about how people should work to support there family and not let the goverment do it for them and stuff like that I just personally dont like the whole hate edge thing because every one has the choice to be edge or not... and I dont know I just really like the way they sound... I dont care for some of the message they put out in there music but I still like the music itself...

[xsecx]

Well, I like some of One Life Crew's message like about how people should work to support there family and not let the goverment do it for them and stuff like that I just personally dont like the whole hate edge thing because every one has the choice to be edge or not... and I dont know I just really like the way they sound... I dont care for some of the message they put out in there music but I still like the music itself...

olc was a joke and didn't have a message though. and honestly were shitty people and shitty for the scene.

[xStevex]

Botch*
Norma Jean*
Embrace today
Terror *
Madball*
Walls of Jericho*
Betrayed
Champion*
Carry on
Give up the Ghost / American Nightmare*
Poison the Well
Dillinger
Black Flag
G Biscults
Youth of Today
Integrity
100 Demons
Cro- Mags

*favs
im getting carryed away

[xsaveourshipx]

Converge
Bane
Norma Jean
The Warriors
ATDI

[xsecx]

Converge
Bane
Norma Jean
The Warriors
ATDI

a bunch of bands that aren't hardcore though.

[xsaveourshipx]

Bane and The Warriors not hardcore??

[xsecx]

Bane and The Warriors not hardcore??
the rest aren't.

[xsaveourshipx]

Norma Jean is.
Converge's side on The Poacher Diaries is hardcore

[xsecx]

Norma Jean is.
Converge's side on The Poacher Diaries is hardcore

thumbs down on norma jean and converge is a metal band.

[xsaveourshipx]

I'll cancell them out with 7a7p and Casey Jones then.

[xsecx]

I'll cancell them out with 7a7p and Casey Jones then.
thumbs down on 7a7p. you kids now adays have a weird idea about what hardcore sounds like.

[xsaveourshipx]

There are many different facets of hardcore...

[xsecx]

There are many different facets of hardcore...

not really. there are lots of different bands and people who want to try and call whatever they're doing hardcore. but they really aren't.

[xsaveourshipx]

Tough guy hardcore isn't the only hardcore out there, though.

[xsecx]

Tough guy hardcore isn't the only hardcore out there, though.

who said anything about tough guy hardcore? the differences in hardcore come in large part by lyrical content, not actual sound. that's why it's called hardcore and not something else.

[xsaveourshipx]

There are different sounds musically in hardcore, though.

[xsecx]

There are different sounds musically in hardcore, though.
not really. there are people who are trying to use the term hardcore for marketing, but that doesn't make it hardcore. the variance really isn't the big and can't be by the nature of a genre. you can't listen to a band like verse and then something like converge and say with a straight face that they sound similar.

[xsaveourshipx]

You also cant listen to a band like Throwdown and then a band like The Warriors and say that they sound alike, yet both are hardcore.

[SgtD]

You also cant listen to a band like Throwdown and then a band like The Warriors and say that they sound alike, yet both are hardcore.
give it up dude...

[xsecx]

You also cant listen to a band like Throwdown and then a band like The Warriors and say that they sound alike, yet both are hardcore.

yeah, but that's just another thing that illustrates the point. I wouldn't say throwdown were hardcore either.

[xsaveourshipx]

Throwdown not hardcore??

[xsecx]

Throwdown not hardcore??

you said it yourself, they don't sound anything like hardcore bands.

[xsaveourshipx]

No, I said that there can be a difference musically within hardcore.

[stepinsideissue]

No, I said that there can be a difference musically within hardcore.


Yeah not really.

[straightXed]

No, I said that there can be a difference musically within hardcore.

So what stops metal being hardcore?

[DaveMoral]

Vegan Reich
Raid
Statement
Earth Crisis
Judge
Project X
Agnostic Front
Warzone
Slapshot
Sick of It All
Blood For Blood

[xsecx]

Vegan Reich
Raid
Statement
Earth Crisis
Judge
Project X
Agnostic Front
Warzone
Slapshot
Sick of It All
Blood For Blood

how can you like hardline bands AND slapshot?

[DaveMoral]

how can you like hardline bands AND slapshot?

Why not?

I know tons of people who like Slapshot AND HL bands.

[xsecx]

Why not?

I know tons of people who like Slapshot AND HL bands.

because they were about as far from hardline as you could get and were pretty vocal about it. Don't really get "militant" vegans liking a band that used to go to steakhouses after shows.

[DaveMoral]

So I'm guessing you wouldn't trouble your ears with the likes of Madball or Skarhead then?

[xsecx]

So I'm guessing you wouldn't trouble your ears with the likes of Madball or Skarhead then?

and how is that relevant?

and no, both of those bands suck.

[DaveMoral]

It's relevant because you're suggesting that because I like Hardline bands I shouldn't listen to Slapshot... who do something which I disagree with... while bands like Madball, Skarhead, Murphy's Law... in fact, pick basically any band NOT straight edge... would be the exact same situation for you.

In short, this idea of your's that one shouldn't be a militant vegan and listen to or like bands that eat meat is flat out moronic. Then again, so is your idea that you can't be straight edge if you're not into hardcore.

[xsecx]

It's relevant because you're suggesting that because I like Hardline bands I shouldn't listen to Slapshot... who do something which I disagree with... while bands like Madball, Skarhead, Murphy's Law... in fact, pick basically any band NOT straight edge... would be the exact same situation for you.

In short, this idea of your's that one shouldn't be a militant vegan and listen to or like bands that eat meat is flat out moronic. Then again, so is your idea that you can't be straight edge if you're not into hardcore.

liking a band that is all about something you're supposedly "violently" opposed is somehow moronic? So when you defend all innocent life are you going to let those bands live because you like their music? Or are you just an idiot? Now, and I know this might be hard for you to understand so I'll break it down nice and simply for you, you would have a point if I was claiming to be militant straight edge. but since I don't, you don't.


and since you like making statements but not actually backing them up and explain, I'll have to ask how you can be straight edge and not be into hardcore. Or also why you're here?

[DaveMoral]

liking a band that is all about something you're supposedly "violently" opposed is somehow moronic? So when you defend all innocent life are you going to let those bands live because you like their music? Or are you just an idiot? Now, and I know this might be hard for you to understand so I'll break it down nice and simply for you, you would have a point if I was claiming to be militant straight edge. but since I don't, you don't.


and since you like making statements but not actually backing them up and explain, I'll have to ask how you can be straight edge and not be into hardcore. Or also why you're here?

Seeing as you've radically misunderstood Hardline, let alone the circumstances in which obviously reactionary songs were written, and its militant opposition to animal exploitation. The violent rhetoric was aimed at the industry which perpetuates that cycle, not individuals conditioned to believe they have to exploit animals in order to live.

I think it would be more enlightening for you to explain how it is that one must be into hardcore and involved in the hardcore scene in order to be straight edge. Certainly there are elements of straight edge that are manifestations of the hardcore punk subculture (the X specifically) but that should not be a limiting factor to straight edge having a wider influence than this very small sector of youth culture. I take it you are opposed to individuals who became straight edge through the hardcore scene but perhaps are MCs and rap about straight edge... thus possibly inspiring any hip hop audience that might get clued into drug free living through such artists? Of course, it is noteworthy to recognize that the "X" is not a letter specifically associated solely with the hardcore punk subculture and straight edge movement within it... other Nation of Islam, for instance, gave all their members the letter "X" as a signifier for the true name lost to them after being enslaved by white culture and they very much embodied the principles of straight edge. One could, in theory, synthesize the two within the hip hop subculture. Moshing and finger-pointing have literally nothing to do with straight edge.

[xsecx]

Seeing as you've radically misunderstood Hardline, let alone the circumstances in which obviously reactionary songs were written, and its militant opposition to animal exploitation. The violent rhetoric was aimed at the industry which perpetuates that cycle, not individuals conditioned to believe they have to exploit animals in order to live.


So it's a matter of me misunderstanding it? So I guess this part was just rhetoric, "Along with this purity of everyday life, the true hardliner must strive to liberate the rest of the world from it's chains - saving life in some cases, and in others, dealing out justice to those guilty of destroying it." and the rest of the world bit wasn't the rest of the world just companies? I mean, lets forget that I've been in the scene for a long ass time and I've known quite a few hardline guys over the year. Please, tell me what it's supposed to mean. Tell me how you're not actually supposed to follow the creed and you wouldn't actually kill individuals for something like hunting.



I think it would be more enlightening for you to explain how it is that one must be into hardcore and involved in the hardcore scene in order to be straight edge. Certainly there are elements of straight edge that are manifestations of the hardcore punk subculture (the X specifically) but that should not be a limiting factor to straight edge having a wider influence than this very small sector of youth culture. I take it you are opposed to individuals who became straight edge through the hardcore scene but perhaps are MCs and rap about straight edge... thus possibly inspiring any hip hop audience that might get clued into drug free living through such artists? Of course, it is noteworthy to recognize that the "X" is not a letter specifically associated solely with the hardcore punk subculture and straight edge movement within it... other Nation of Islam, for instance, gave all their members the letter "X" as a signifier for the true name lost to them after being enslaved by white culture and they very much embodied the principles of straight edge. One could, in theory, synthesize the two within the hip hop subculture. Moshing and finger-pointing have literally nothing to do with straight edge.

you're using the term straight edge incorrectly to describe a set of beliefs and not an actual subculture, which it is. It's not simply a set of beliefs. What you would be describing if it were to take hold in another musical genre wouldn't be straight edge, but in fact something completely new with it's own history and traditions, which is necessary. It isn't simply a catch all term used to describe anyone and everyone.

[stepinsideissue]

It's relevant because you're suggesting that because I like Hardline bands I shouldn't listen to Slapshot... who do something which I disagree with... while bands like Madball, Skarhead, Murphy's Law... in fact, pick basically any band NOT straight edge... would be the exact same situation for you.

In short, this idea of your's that one shouldn't be a militant vegan and listen to or like bands that eat meat is flat out moronic. Then again, so is your idea that you can't be straight edge if you're not into hardcore.


Yeah except you can't be straight edge if you're not into hardcore.

[x777MAFIAx]

Prayer for Cleansing
Embrace Today
With Honor
Champion
Most Precious Blood
Carry On
Betrayed
Blue Monday
Terror

[xCrucialDudex]

Agnostic Front
Madball
Sick Of It All
xLooking Forwardx
No Innocent Victim
Ignite
Sworn Enemy

Old School, NYHC is what I'm really into but I do appreciate some of the Metalcore crossover too.

Well, this is what I'm really going crazy about, of course I could add a bit more, but this is what I really like.

[xsaveourshipx]

Blacklisted
Bane
On Broken Wings
One Dead Three Wounded
xAFBx

[xCAMIx]

Blacklisted
Bane
On Broken Wings
One Dead Three Wounded
xAFBx
VERSE
BANE
Mouthpeice
Gorilla Biscuits
xLOOKING FORWARDx
BOLD
Seventh Star
Throwdown
h2o
I think Go It Alone is edge.
Righteous Jams
Slapshot
Champion
Minor Threat
Blue Monday
Carry On
Outbreak
The Promise
Ruiner
Shook Ones
Youth Attack
theXgeeks
And Gylazaat haha Just for Dini.

[xCAMIx]

Agnostic Front
Madball
Sick Of It All
xLooking Forwardx
No Innocent Victim
Ignite
Sworn Enemy

Old School, NYHC is what I'm really into but I do appreciate some of the Metalcore crossover too.

Well, this is what I'm really going crazy about, of course I could add a bit more, but this is what I really like.
AF and Madball = Not edge.
and If you don't think you can be edge and christian, xLOOKING FORWARDx contradicts you and I'm all for that.

[xCAMIx]

I don't mean that kid, I mean all the guys on here saying you can't be edge and Christian.

[xJon the conx]

this thread was already so long by the time i joined that i havent really read it much, but some of my favorite sxe AND hardcore bands are in no order

negative approach
black flag
minor threat
bad brains
underdog
earth crisis
agnostic front
gorilla biscuits
ringworm
intergrity

i assume most of those have probably been mentioned by now.

[straightXed]

AF and Madball = Not edge.
and If you don't think you can be edge and christian, xLOOKING FORWARDx contradicts you and I'm all for that.

Who said they were edge?

[xCAMIx]

Who said they were edge?
They openly claim it.

[xJon the conx]

i think he meant AF and madball.

[straightXed]

They openly claim it.

I meant AF and madball

[xJon the conx]

this dude means AF and madball.

[xCAMIx]

I meant AF and madball
This is the greatest SXE AND HARDCORE Bands thread all edge bands.

[mouseman004]

This is the greatest SXE AND HARDCORE Bands thread all edge bands.


sxe AND hardcore, not just sxe....

[xJon the conx]

madball AND agnostic front, not just madball.

[straightXed]

This is the greatest SXE AND HARDCORE Bands thread all edge bands.


have you looked at your list, you have bane and h2o on here. H2O for fucks sake!! But this isn't a exclusivley straightedge so no comment was made on that. And why did you only point out AF and madball, there are other non edge bands on the list.

[xJon the conx]

AF and madball
.

[straightXed]

.

Do you wish to discuss something?

[xCrucialDudex]

Terror is VERY good.
I'd love to see their show and hear live perfomance =)

[straightXed]

Terror is VERY good.
I'd love to see their show and hear live perfomance =)

Terror are pretty bland and sucky. I wouldn't go to see them.

[xJon the conx]

Do you wish to discuss something?


i actually just intended to keep typing AF and madball over and over again, but it ability to amuse me has now subsided.

in regards to the list, i wanna add token entry, and the cro mags

[straightXed]

i actually just intended to keep typing AF and madball over and over again, but it ability to amuse me has now subsided.



well if you don't wish do talk with me about anything can you please not direct your self ammusement posts at me. I am happy to talk with you but would prefer if you engaged in a conversation with me in way that doesn't just satisfy your ammusement and actually is discussing something rather than just repeatedly highlighting the names of two bands.

[xCrucialDudex]

Terror are pretty bland and sucky. I wouldn't go to see them.

Bland and sucky?
They sound pretty good. At least their latest LP I've listened to recently. Maybe my taste isn't that sophisticated as yours, may be, but I think Terror's music is really good. It's energetic.

[xJon the conx]

well if you don't wish do talk with me about anything can you please not direct your self ammusement posts at me. I am happy to talk with you but would prefer if you engaged in a conversation with me in way that doesn't just satisfy your ammusement and actually is discussing something rather than just repeatedly highlighting the names of two bands.


and people say that brits are no fun.


we could discuss king diamond, and how awesome he is.

your thoughts?

[straightXed]

and people say that brits are no fun.


we could discuss king diamond, and how awesome he is.

your thoughts?

Interesting that you turn this into something that relates to my nationality, its not really about being fun or not its about how you address people. I mean how do you think you come accross to someone you've not even talked to before when you make those type of posts. I have made a very polite request and in response you allude that british people aren't fun.

[xJon the conx]

well then i suppose i apologize to england.

just not you.

[straightXed]

well then i suppose i apologize to england.

just not you.

why not me?

[xJon the conx]

why not me?


because i maintain that youre no fun.

also you never acknowledged or testified to the vocal might of king diamond.

[straightXed]

because i maintain that youre no fun.

also you never acknowledged or testified to the vocal might of king diamond.

Well how is anyone meant to have fun from posts designed for the authors own ammusment and is a complete stranger to the person the posts are directed at?

I don't acknowledge king diamond because its crap to me and i have no interest in discussing it.

[xJon the conx]

Well how is anyone meant to have fun from posts designed for the authors own ammusment and is a complete stranger to the person the posts are directed at?

I don't acknowledge king diamond because its crap to me and i have no interest in discussing it.


i just think youre kind of a dick, hence no fun.

p.s. king diamond ownes you


sexually.

[straightXed]

i just think youre kind of a dick, hence no fun.

p.s. king diamond ownes you


sexually.

well thats great, way to avoid the question. Took you a while to come up with that insult too hope it was as devastating as you had hoped. I mean what on earth does it even mean to be owned sexually? And lets not forget you also called me a dick!!! Because you have a problem addressing people and i pointed it out, i'm really not supprised that you resort to name calling and revert to idiocy.

[xJon the conx]

well thats great, way to avoid the question. Took you a while to come up with that insult too hope it was as devastating as you had hoped. I mean what on earth does it even mean to be owned sexually? And lets not forget you also called me a dick!!! Because you have a problem addressing people and i pointed it out, i'm really not supprised that you resort to name calling and revert to idiocy.


::yawn:: it took me awhile because i was making a sandwich (which was delicious) and again theres no real point to be made here, i took something you said and directed it at someone else, which if you wanna break it down was born from the fact that i said " he means af and madball" and then you put "i mean af and madball" so i reposted "he means af and madball" cause it amused me and then i ran with it, youre not a victim, youre just an uptight homo.

and as i just mentioned in our other thread i already dont like you, and we're not discussing an issue with any sort of point, so if you want to carry this on either expect insults or shut the fuck up and we'll change the subject.

or lets at least limit our shittalking to one thread, all this page clicking is inhibiting my sandwich eating ability

[straightXed]

::yawn:: it took me awhile because i was making a sandwich (which was delicious) and again theres no real point to be made here, i took something you said and directed it at someone else, which if you wanna break it down was born from the fact that i said " he means af and madball" and then you put "i mean af and madball" so i reposted "he means af and madball" cause it amused me and then i ran with it, youre not a victim, youre just an uptight homo.

There we go with the homophobia, what a supprise! And i understand your break down but i was addressing the bit where you directly post to me with a period, i would prefer if when you talk to me you say something, which is why i asked if you wanted to discuss anything, not really uptight and not really homosexual is it?


and as i just mentioned in our other thread i already dont like you, and we're not discussing an issue with any sort of point, so if you want to carry this on either expect insults or shut the fuck up and we'll change the subject.

I'll continue on, and you can carry on with your intelligent well thought out and articulate responses. And you don't like me because i pointed out that you addressed my post with nothing but a period and mentioned that i would prefer it if you posted some content rather than nothing?


or lets at least limit our shittalking to one thread, all this page clicking is inhibiting my sandwich eating ability

well thats up to you really.

[xJon the conx]

There we go with the homophobia, what a supprise! And i understand your break down but i was addressing the bit where you directly post to me with a period, i would prefer if when you talk to me you say something, which is why i asked if you wanted to discuss anything, not really uptight and not really homosexual is it?



I'll continue on, and you can carry on with your intelligent well thought out and articulate responses. And you don't like me because i pointed out that you addressed my post with nothing but a period and mentioned that i would prefer it if you posted some content rather than nothing?



well thats up to you really.


im not homophobic




because im not afraid of you.




badda bing.

[stepinsideissue]

im not homophobic




because im not afraid of you.




badda bing.


A weak personal jab doesn't help prove your point.

[xJon the conx]

A weak personal jab doesn't help prove your point.


im not really proving a point. theres no "issue" here.

[straightXed]

im not homophobic




because im not afraid of you.




badda bing.

You obvously don't understand your homophobia.

[stepinsideissue]

im not really proving a point. theres no "issue" here.


Still doesn't help with your credibility in other posts.

[xJon the conx]

You obvously don't understand your homophobia.


im not asking you to teach me either, dont bug me and you wont have to hear about it, or choose a new thread and we'll discuss the matter intelligently, not that i think its necessary.

[xJon the conx]

Still doesn't help with your credibility in other posts.

well i wouldnt want my posting credibility with you guys to be in any way tarnished.

the credibility of any point i make in a post is supported simply by the truth of that point, if you see a serious one that you'd like to refute then by all means speak up. otherwise dont trouble yourself with my "credibility" i'll hire my own PR personnel.

[straightXed]

im not asking you to teach me either, dont bug me and you wont have to hear about it, or choose a new thread and we'll discuss the matter intelligently, not that i think its necessary.


I'm simply posting to the comments you make, if that bugs you and you don't want to discuss things with me then don't but when you gay bash you can't expect people not to tell you its wrong.

[straightXed]

well i wouldnt want my posting credibility with you guys to be in any way tarnished.

the credibility of any point i make in a post is supported simply by the truth of that point, if you see a serious one that you'd like to refute then by all means speak up. otherwise dont trouble yourself with my "credibility" i'll hire my own PR personnel.

Well theres all the questions i asked, your statements are very uncredible and not based in truth if you are going to ignore them.

[stepinsideissue]

well i wouldnt want my posting credibility with you guys to be in any way tarnished.

the credibility of any point i make in a post is supported simply by the truth of that point, if you see a serious one that you'd like to refute then by all means speak up. otherwise dont trouble yourself with my "credibility" i'll hire my own PR personnel.


Honestly I'd say it's to late for that.

I'd like to see the truth behind the stereo type comments you said about Brits and Ed's homosexual tendencies then. Both of which were very much implied and niether were ever backed up by any "truth" of yours.

I agree with Ed too. You can't come on here and expect that people won't try and correct you or argue the misuse use of the term gay or homosexuality / phobia.

[xCAMIx]

have you looked at your list, you have bane and h2o on here. H2O for fucks sake!! But this isn't a exclusivley straightedge so no comment was made on that. And why did you only point out AF and madball, there are other non edge bands on the list.
Oh Sick of It All..sorry, forgot them. But h2o is edge, I think. And BANE for sure is.

[xvunderx]

Oh Sick of It All..sorry, forgot them. But h2o is edge, I think. And BANE for sure is.

Nope Bane used to be, but now claim they never were which is kinda lame.

[xsecx]

Oh Sick of It All..sorry, forgot them. But h2o is edge, I think. And BANE for sure is.

you are very very wrong on all of these.

[straightXed]

Oh Sick of It All..sorry, forgot them. But h2o is edge, I think. And BANE for sure is.


Toby is the only edge member of h2o, the rest are quite open about drinking and smoking shit.

[xCAMIx]

"Just like this X on the back of my hand, I'm going nowhere, can still count the ways..."
Not edge to you?
And I read that interview, he just said that they don't wanna be known as a straight edge BAND members still are, but the message is just hardcore and values, no longer edge. Clear things up?

[xsecx]

"Just like this X on the back of my hand, I'm going nowhere, can still count the ways..."
Not edge to you?
And I read that interview, he just said that they don't wanna be known as a straight edge BAND members still are, but the message is just hardcore and values, no longer edge. Clear things up?

you really are dull. for a really long time the only member that was still edge was the singer, and even that is rumored to not be true anymore. The band started off edge, but ain't edge now. You seriously have a limited understanding of hardcore and how a band is edge or you. You just tried to argue a band that SAID they're not an edge band was an edge band?

[xCAMIx]

you really are dull. for a really long time the only member that was still edge was the singer, and even that is rumored to not be true anymore. The band started off edge, but ain't edge now. You seriously have a limited understanding of hardcore and how a band is edge or you. You just tried to argue a band that SAID they're not an edge band was an edge band?
You misinterpret everything. This is shit. You know, the band's still edge, just not with an edge message. Perfect example of this would Be Ruiner , Set Your Goals, Sinking Ships.
As to a band who's all about edge , ie. Good Clean Fun, Earth Crisis, Casey Jones, etc.

[straightXed]

You misinterpret everything. This is shit. You know, the band's still edge, just not with an edge message. Perfect example of this would Be Ruiner , Set Your Goals, Sinking Ships.
As to a band who's all about edge , ie. Good Clean Fun, Earth Crisis, Casey Jones, etc.

So are you saying that all members of bane are edge?

Good clean fun are a joke incidently.

[xsecx]

You misinterpret everything. This is shit. You know, the band's still edge, just not with an edge message. Perfect example of this would Be Ruiner , Set Your Goals, Sinking Ships.
As to a band who's all about edge , ie. Good Clean Fun, Earth Crisis, Casey Jones, etc.

no you're a moron who doesn't understand anything, when a band says they're not edge, they're not edge, and I know for a FACT that some of the members aren't edge anymore, and that that is the reason they stopped calling themselves an edge band after being together 2 years. If you don't call yourself an edge band, you're not an edge band you idiot. And you're definitely not an edge band if all of the band members aren't edge. You seriously are either incredibly gullible or stupid or both.

[xCAMIx]

Good Clean Fun's message is exactly what they believe, so how are they a joke? And sec, I'm defering you right now, because every comment that comes out of your mouth is antagonistic belligerent bullshit towards me because I disagree with your opinion on abortion. Fuck off. You call me acting like a 4 year old, but your the one who just can't let go.

[straightXed]

Good Clean Fun's message is exactly what they believe, so how are they a joke?

So are you saying that all members of bane are edge?

For once will you answer the question i take the time to ask you? I'm not just posting it to be ignored and its very ignorant and has become a running theme with you.

As for GCF their actions have always been dubious particularly of late. Their message, their lyrics have clearly been a joke at your expense if you think they aren't a joke. Often they have sang one thing whilst meaning or doing another, they have sent up hardcore in order to make money even though they suggest they aren't in it for the money. Ex-members have spoke out about issa's real aims and its all pretty obvious really. Don't be so clueless.

[xsecx]

Good Clean Fun's message is exactly what they believe, so how are they a joke? And sec, I'm defering you right now, because every comment that comes out of your mouth is antagonistic belligerent bullshit towards me because I disagree with your opinion on abortion. Fuck off. You call me acting like a 4 year old, but your the one who just can't let go.

it's antagonistic because everything that comes out of you is complete and utter bullshit. You make incorrect statements and then don't address them when people point it out. You're a spoiled little dipshit who is actually quite stupid on top of it. You want to talk some shit about backing down now?

[mouseman004]

You misinterpret everything. This is shit. You know, the band's still edge, just not with an edge message. Perfect example of this would Be Ruiner , Set Your Goals, Sinking Ships.
As to a band who's all about edge , ie. Good Clean Fun, Earth Crisis, Casey Jones, etc.


You need to pick your battles. Arguing with ed and Dusty about bands is not a battle you want, considering they have both been in the scene since before you were born. Just a suggestion....

[xsecx]

You need to pick your battles. Arguing with ed and Dusty about bands is not a battle you want, considering they have both been in the scene since before you were born. Just a suggestion....

it's not even a matter of that. why argue that a bunch of bands that aren't edge and who are well known for drinking and doing other shit are edge? why would you try and argue a band that actively says they're not an edge band is an edge band? the only reason you would is because you're a moron.

[xCAMIx]

You need to pick your battles. Arguing with ed and Dusty about bands is not a battle you want, considering they have both been in the scene since before you were born. Just a suggestion....
I picked them Ill finish them, and who cares how long youv'e been in the scene, how many shows you've been to, I can learn just as well as them. And no, Dusty I'm no moron, you're just a hater. ASS!

[mouseman004]

I picked them Ill finish them, and who cares how long youv'e been in the scene, how many shows you've been to, I can learn just as well as them. And no, Dusty I'm no moron, you're just a hater. ASS!


A hater of what?

[xsecx]

I picked them Ill finish them, and who cares how long youv'e been in the scene, how many shows you've been to, I can learn just as well as them. And no, Dusty I'm no moron, you're just a hater. ASS!

learning requires being smart enough to know when you're wrong and to correct it. You don't have the ability clearly. You see, if you weren't a moron you would have actually addressed the subject matter here, which you didn't. You would have demonstrated WHY you think some of these bands are edge, which you didn't, because they're not. You're just a fool child. So please,finish them, son.

[aNthony]

AFI
Minor Threat
Comeback Kid
Blue Monday
Ceremony
Integrity
Ignite
Blacklisted
figure four
With Honor
Paint it Black

[xsecx]

AFI
Minor Threat
Comeback Kid
Blue Monday
Ceremony
Integrity
Ignite
Blacklisted
figure four
With Honor
Paint it Black

agree with at least half of your list, but afi ain't a hardcore band.

[straightXed]

I picked them Ill finish them,


You can start by answering questions and addressing points raised, thats the general way of things.

[stepinsideissue]

it's antagonistic because everything that comes out of you is complete and utter bullshit. You make incorrect statements and then don't address them when people point it out. You're a spoiled little dipshit who is actually quite stupid on top of it. You want to talk some shit about backing down now?


He doesn't back down remember. Careful or him and his imature ass little friends are gonna come and try to fight you.

[xsecx]

He doesn't back down remember. Careful or him and his imature ass little friends are gonna come and try to fight you.

no dude. his mom!

[stepinsideissue]

no dude. his mom!


I hear she can swing a mean rolling pin.

[Michael]

I will just list my alltime favorite sxe band and that would definitely be Gorilla Biscuits.

[Anonymous Ghost]

Throwdown
Terror
Shutdown
Comeback Kid
Minor Threat
Champion
Seventh Star
Hatebreed

[Anonymous Ghost]

Norma Jean
As I lay Dying
Bleeding through
Embrace Today
The DIllinger Escape Plan
Hopesfall
Atreyu
Daughters
Black Flag
Earth Crisis
As I Lay Dying is not hardcore, they're Metalcore... (The same with Atreyu and Bleeding Through)

But they're freaking amazing 'though...!!!!

[xsaveourshipx]

Minor Threat
Gorilla Biscuits
Stick To Your Guns
Comeback Kid
Project X
Youth Of Today
Black Flag
25 Ta Life
Throwdown
Fight Like Hell

[xsecx]

Minor Threat
Gorilla Biscuits
Stick To Your Guns
Comeback Kid
Project X
Youth Of Today
Black Flag
25 Ta Life
Throwdown
Fight Like Hell

project x didn't do enough to be one of the greatest. 25 ta life is pretty horrible and generic. comeback kid isn't that good or distinct, throwdown sounds like shit. fight like hell and stick to your guns haven't been around long enough to consider.

[xsaveourshipx]

As I Lay Dying is not hardcore, they're Metalcore... (The same with Atreyu and Bleeding Through)


None of them are hardcore other than Black Flag and Earth Crisis

[xsecx]

Throwdown
Terror
Shutdown
Comeback Kid
Minor Threat
Champion
Seventh Star
Hatebreed

we need to get you kids to listen to more bands if you guys think these bands are the best of the genre.

[xsaveourshipx]

project x didn't do enough to be one of the greatest. 25 ta life is pretty horrible and generic. comeback kid isn't that good or distinct, throwdown sounds like shit. fight like hell and stick to your guns haven't been around long enough to consider.

Oh thank you all knowing sxe god.

[xsecx]

Oh thank you all knowing sxe god.

no problem young kid who clearly hasn't listened to that many bands!

[xsaveourshipx]

I've listened to alot of bands. I'm sorry I like newer hardcore as opposed to bands in the 80's and 90's.

[xsecx]

I've listened to alot of bands. I'm sorry I like newer hardcore as opposed to bands in the 90's.

even in terms of newer hardcore, comeback kid not that good, and 25 ta life is a band from the 90s that was shit then and shit now.

I mean with lyrics like "Loose wit da truth.
Nothing but lies.
Loose wit da truth.
Told nothing but lies.
Heard it all before.
Truth comes wit time.
Take a look around.
Where they are now.
Something real in my heart.
A way of life.
Something, nothin i can replace.
You are."

you have to be kidding?

[straightXed]

I've listened to alot of bands. I'm sorry I like newer hardcore as opposed to bands in the 80's and 90's.

Why aren't you mentioning the greatest bands from a more recent era then?

[SgtD]

Oh thank you all knowing sxe god.
sometimes it's better to stay quiet and listen what the wiser is trying to say.

[hxcsxe]

even in terms of newer hardcore, comeback kid not that good, and 25 ta life is a band from the 90s that was shit then and shit now.

I mean with lyrics like "Loose wit da truth.
Nothing but lies.
Loose wit da truth.
Told nothing but lies.
Heard it all before.
Truth comes wit time.
Take a look around.
Where they are now.
Something real in my heart.
A way of life.
Something, nothin i can replace.
You are."

you have to be kidding?
so

[hxcsxe]

judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[xsecx]

so

so, they're not even good let alone great.

[hxcsxe]

so, they're not even good let alone great.
ur opinion

[xsaveourshipx]

Dusty, we have a different taste in music. Leave it at that. You dont have to attack every thing I say.

[SgtD]

Dusty, we have a different taste in music. Leave it at that. You dont have to attack every thing I say.
i don't think he did

[xsecx]

ur opinion

and the opinion of most people. no one who actually listens to is knowledgeable of hardcore would have 25 ta life as anything more than a guilty pleasure. which is the same category people with good taste in hardcore put biohazard and any agnostic front record made after 1990.

[xsecx]

Dusty, we have a different taste in music. Leave it at that. You dont have to attack every thing I say.

I don't think saying that 25 ta life isn't good let alone great would constitute attacking everything you say, especially when you can't provide a counter example to explain what makes them great.

[RIpPeR]

Here is a small list of hardcore bands/records that really did it for me as a kid...

Black Flag (Pre-Rollins)
Minor Threat
Ill Repute
D.Y.S. (Brotherhood)
Suicidal Tendencies (1st release)
Dirty Rotten Imbeciles (Dirty Rotten E.P.)
Jody Fosters Army
Verbal Abuse (1st release)
Uniform Choice (Screaming For Change)


...I admit I'm old but I've never given up on hardcore. (Somewhat)Current bands that I like are:

Epileptic Terror Attack
Milesaway
Tear It Up
Scholastic Deth
Panic
Outbreak
Triple Threat

[TMR]

Minor Threat
Bad Religion
Mental
Black Flag
Champion
Circle Jerks

[TylerxRollins]

Currently Listening To:
Stay Gold
XFilesX
Shitfit
Negative Approach
Righteous Jams
Paint It Black
Kid Dynamite
Infest
CIV

[Big_O_is_Stupid]

Norma Jean
As I lay Dying
Bleeding through
Embrace Today
The DIllinger Escape Plan
Hopesfall
Atreyu
Daughters
Black Flag
Earth Crisis


Black Flag is the only band on that list that is hardcore.

[Big_O_is_Stupid]

In no particular order...


Walls of Jericho
Irate NYC
Rule of Thumb
Shattered Realm
Point Pleasant
Fatality
Killing Floor
Close Quarters Combat
Righteous Jams
Terror Ave.
Betrayed By All
Blood In/Blood Out

[Virta]

im pretty new to hardcore..so if there is something i should know..pls tell me

well as for bands
as i lay dying
inked in blood

locals:
death sentance
solidarity
at least its not cancer
clubber lang

[SgtD]

im pretty new to hardcore..so if there is something i should know..pls tell me

well as for bands
as i lay dying
inked in blood

locals:
death sentance
solidarity
at least its not cancer
clubber lang
there's a thread called greatest hardcore and sxe bands. also check out the master list thread.

[xsaveourshipx]

No order:

Project X
Blood For Blood
Agnostic Front
Slumlords
Judge
Righteous Jams

[ireland896]

streatch arm strong
walls of jericho (playing this sunday the 8th in Lansing MI.)
strife
throwdown
earth crisis
strong arm
zao
abound failure
stand firm
norma jean
comeback kid
rollins band

[xsaveourshipx]

theres a difference between favorite and greatest, bud.

[straightXed]

theres a difference between favorite and greatest, bud.

theres also a difference between sxe/hardcore and norma jean/rollins band etc.

[x777MAFIAx]

Allegiance
Earth Crisis
Another Victim
The Promise
Path of Resistance
Champion
Blue Monday

[xsaveourshipx]

theres also a difference between sxe/hardcore and norma jean/rollins band etc.

i know, but they listed the exact same list of bands in both threads.

[straightXed]

i know, but they listed the exact same list of bands in both threads.

I know, i was pointing out its a hardcore section in addition to your commentry.

[xjosephxramonx]

Evergreen Terrace
Casey Jones
Until The End
Throwdown
The Burning Season
Haste The Day
The Chariot

some other hXc shit too

xXx

[xGriffox]

gather

[stepinsideissue]

I don't know about greatest but the new Suffocate Faster disc is pretty fucking good.

[mXoXsXh]

im not really appealed to the old school hxc music, cuz i basically listen to metal but im really into;

Casey Jones
Ed Gein
XDeathstarX
Black My Heart
Too Pure To Die
XBishopX
XLookingXForwardX
XBoundXinXbloodX
Donnybrook!
Figure Four
Earth Crisis
Seventh Star
Modern Life Is War
Know The Score
Death Before Dishonor
Floorpunch
SharkXPunch (haha)
Guns Up!
Kids Like Us
Madball
Make Your Stand
Sick Of It All
XLifeXRuinerX
XMagruderGrindX

yea, i love all these bands :)

[xriteousxjamsx]

mental
cromags
justice
kids like us
casey jones
shook ones
floorpunch
RJ
goitalone
betrayed
xourwarx
iron age
jaguarz
gunsup!

[hxcsxe]

aint heard a mention of madball!!
they are awsome

[xsecx]

aint heard a mention of madball!!
they are awsome

awesomely boring and generic.

[jmat1122]

three quarters of rise against is sXe.

[mouseman004]

three quarters of rise against is sXe.


And thats cool, but they are niether a hardcore band nor are they a straight edge band.

[hxcsxe]

awesomely boring and generic.

i do agree they do get boring if you listen to all 8 albums in a row but its ok once in a while.
i like the guitar tone and the drums as thats what i play
and i do think the lyrics are pretty true.
i did think legacy was a bit like terrors new album

[hxcsxe]

they may not be greatest but here goes

no warning
death threat
figure four
untill the end

[XplagueX]

Give Up The Ghost (previously known as American Nightmare)
Fifteen

[xsecx]

Give Up The Ghost (previously known as American Nightmare)


the first record was amazing, everything after that wasn't that good and their last record sucked.

[XplagueX]

the first record was amazing, everything after that wasn't that good and their last record sucked.

Love American? I believe was the last record and yes, it wasn't nearly as good as the rest. I didn't much appreciate them after the name change, but I wanted to make it "currently correct." They were much better off as American Nightmare and writing material like "Background Music."

[XnemchaX]

Minor Threat (not sXe but guys who made sXe :) )
Youth of Today
Negative FX
Gorilla Biscuits
Vitamin X
FxPxOx (macedonian sXe fast core, you must check it)
Charles Bronson
Unity
Teen Idles
Uniform Choice
Slapshot
Hold X true
Los Crudos
Limp Wrist
Larm.......

[x408 fo sh0x]

my favorite hardcore band of all time has to be Hatebreed, they brought me into the hardcore scene.

and my current favorites are xAFBx, xDeathstarx, and xBound In Bloodx.

[mXoXsXh]

xBound In Bloodx.

YEAAAAA! =)