Does sXe mean you're just a scene kid?

[collin]

most of the sXe kids i've met so far seem like they're not really into it...just doing it because their friends heard about it and thought it sounded cool. So is it a good thing that Straight-Edge is becoming more and more known by the majority? Or is it bad that most people think of it as just a fad?

[SgtD]

i don't even know what the fuck does "scene kid" mean! is that sayin a new fad?
how can you see other kids not really into it? are you a mind reader or what?
as for straigt edge getting more known, i personally don't see that. some people will break their edge, and as far as i see it, kids who are so proud o being edge break edge more often. that's just my personal experience though

[collin]

scene kid- somebody who joins a fad because it is a fad. They actually said they weren't into it. I'm with you, man. I just hate to see people fuck things up for themselves, when they could do so much better for themselves. All my friends, man. They just don't get it, that they don't need drugs or alcohol, and now they're either dead, burned out, or just really depressed. it gets me down...

[SgtD]

scene kid- somebody who joins a fad because it is a fad.

this scene kid thing just seems stupid to me. i would identify someone as "scene" who is down with the scene, and does soemthing for it.


They actually said they weren't into it. I'm with you, man. I just hate to see people fuck things up for themselves, when they could do so much better for themselves. All my friends, man. They just don't get it, that they don't need drugs or alcohol, and now they're either dead, burned out, or just really depressed. it gets me down...
so they weren't into it, or sold out? i don't really see through what you say here
there will always be people jumping the bandwagon.
you can still help your friends to realize that drugs are no good.

[collin]

they said they were sXe, but then when we started talking about it, they didn't really know what it was, they just knew it was popular. And i'm working on my friends. It just kills me to know that there are so many people out there who are throwing their lives away for a moment of fake pleasure.

[collin]

I wish everybody could just realize that you can be happy without chemical-induced euphoria....

[MidnightHours]

i don't even know what the fuck does "scene kid" mean!

Where I live scene kids are considered to be the ones who wear the girls pants, tight shirts, and spend about an hour a day doing their hair. They usually hang around shows just to be there. Then a big thing starts up between them on who is scene and who isn't, and they judge each other to a point of fighting one another. Most of them are around 14 - 18 and live on myspace.

Theres thats how my friend explained what they are.

Actually I've seen alot of these "scene" girls go sxe just to get the attention of the actual sxe guys, and once they do that they go around saying how such and such arnt edge. Then two weeks later when the relationship is over they're getting high.

Sad to say but trends and labels seem to own(sorry pwn or whatever) people. One of my friends told me how two kids stopped being friends just because one of them took the other off their top 8 on myspace.

I'm just hoping people will grow out of this thing of throwing insults at one another for the music they listen to and how they look.

[collin]

no kidding. i've kinda started a revolution here in the tiny town of crossville, tennessee. over the summer we've started the underground hardcore scene, but we also help promote anybody who is trying to make it. when there's so few people, discrimination can really ruin things quickly. I listen to just about anything and everything, minus rap, which makes me sad because it portrays African American culture in such a negative way.

[SgtD]

Where I live scene kids are considered to be the ones who wear the girls pants, tight shirts, and spend about an hour a day doing their hair. They usually hang around shows just to be there. Then a big thing starts up between them on who is scene and who isn't, and they judge each other to a point of fighting one another. Most of them are around 14 - 18 and live on myspace.

Theres thats how my friend explained what they are.

Actually I've seen alot of these "scene" girls go sxe just to get the attention of the actual sxe guys, and once they do that they go around saying how such and such arnt edge. Then two weeks later when the relationship is over they're getting high.

Sad to say but trends and labels seem to own(sorry pwn or whatever) people. One of my friends told me how two kids stopped being friends just because one of them took the other off their top 8 on myspace.

I'm just hoping people will grow out of this thing of throwing insults at one another for the music they listen to and how they look.
i call these people posers

[collin]

which people? the ones i call scene kids?

[SgtD]

which people? the ones i call scene kids?
yes. i think my quote made it clear

[collin]

yeah. agreed. so do we just accept the posers or try to get rid of them?

[SgtD]

yeah. agreed. so do we just accept the posers or try to get rid of them?
tell me your plan how to get rid of them please. oh wait, that would be discrimination, wouldn't it?

[collin]

yeah it would be...so i guess you would just have to say that if you're not gonna be 100% true to the cause, you should just stay out. that's not descrimination...your band's pretty kick ass, by the way.

[straightXed]

I wish everybody could just realize that you can be happy without chemical-induced euphoria....

I wish everybody could just realize that you can be happy without spending so much time worrying about what personal choices make for themselves...

[straightXed]

most of the sXe kids i've met so far seem like they're not really into it...just doing it because their friends heard about it and thought it sounded cool. So is it a good thing that Straight-Edge is becoming more and more known by the majority? Or is it bad that most people think of it as just a fad?

Straightedge is cool, i think smoking, drinking and drugs aren't cool, whats the problem with thinking things are cool and a good idea?

[collin]

i know that i can, it's just that i care about people and want to see everybody live out their full potential. helping other people makes me happy too.

[straightXed]

scene kid- somebody who joins a fad because it is a fad. They actually said they weren't into it. I'm with you, man. I just hate to see people fuck things up for themselves, when they could do so much better for themselves. All my friends, man. They just don't get it, that they don't need drugs or alcohol, and now they're either dead, burned out, or just really depressed. it gets me down...

So hang on, they stop doing drugs and drinking and all that but they aren't into it?

Why are you bothered if they aren't doing drugs etc. when that appears to be what bothers you?

[straightXed]

i know that i can, it's just that i care about people and want to see everybody live out their full potential. helping other people makes me happy too.

For them to live out their full potential you have to let them live out their own mistakes and choices.

[collin]

because they weren't planning to keep it. they started talking about some party that they were gonna go to, and how much beer there was gonna be, and i was like "whoa, you guys are straight-edge, right?" and they said that they didn't even think about that.

[straightXed]

yeah it would be...so i guess you would just have to say that if you're not gonna be 100% true to the cause, you should just stay out. that's not descrimination...your band's pretty kick ass, by the way.


How would you determin what 100% is? And what is the cause?

[collin]

i let them live through their mistakes and when they die i just say oh well he shouldn't have done that? that seems like it would make me a pretty shitty kind of person.

[straightXed]

because they weren't planning to keep it. they started talking about some party that they were gonna go to, and how much beer there was gonna be, and i was like "whoa, you guys are straight-edge, right?" and they said that they didn't even think about that.

Well straight edge doesn't need to figure in everyones life, they aren't edge, so what?

[collin]

so do we just ignore them and let them ruin their lives just cause they aren't edge? do we watch them die and say oh, i could have helped, but i'm edge and they weren't so it's ok?
So not cool.....

[straightXed]

i let them live through their mistakes and when they die i just say oh well he shouldn't have done that? that seems like it would make me a pretty shitty kind of person.

if it seems like that you are missing the point. You can't live peoples lives for them if you feel shitty because people will do things that you wouldn't then you have a long life on unhappiness ahead of you.

[collin]

i'm not trying to live out others lives, i just don't want to see them fuck up the rest of their lives? is that so bad? that i want to help people? i said it before, helping others makes me happy.

[straightXed]

so do we just ignore them and let them ruin their lives just cause they aren't edge? do we watch them die and say oh, i could have helped, but i'm edge and they weren't so it's ok?
So not cool.....

Who said ignore them? Whats to say living in accordance with values that don't make them happy at all wouldn't ruin their lives more?

Edge isn't an outreach program, if you are so concerned then join up with a drug help program and help people that actually want the help.

If people aren't in the mindset and don't want to abstain from drugs etc. then you will get nowhere.

[straightXed]

i'm not trying to live out others lives, i just don't want to see them fuck up the rest of their lives? is that so bad? that i want to help people? i said it before, helping others makes me happy.


Well whats that got to do with edge? And if helping people makes you happy find a way to help people who want help.

[collin]

i know edge isn't an outreach program, but i don't understand why you're telling me not to help people because i'm edge... i think it's fair to do whatever works, don't you? it would not only help the people, but in the end it would help society as well.

[straightXed]

i know edge isn't an outreach program, but i don't understand why you're telling me not to help people because i'm edge... i think it's fair to do whatever works, don't you? it would not only help the people, but in the end it would help society as well.

When did i say don't help people just because you are edge?

You are giving of this weird impression of how you want to help people be edge.

Try slowing down and thinking about what is being said.

[xbustedx]

Where I live scene kids are considered to be the ones who wear the girls pants, tight shirts, and spend about an hour a day doing their hair. They usually hang around shows just to be there. Then a big thing starts up between them on who is scene and who isn't, and they judge each other to a point of fighting one another. Most of them are around 14 - 18 and live on myspace.

Theres thats how my friend explained what they are.

Actually I've seen alot of these "scene" girls go sxe just to get the attention of the actual sxe guys, and once they do that they go around saying how such and such arnt edge. Then two weeks later when the relationship is over they're getting high.

Sad to say but trends and labels seem to own(sorry pwn or whatever) people. One of my friends told me how two kids stopped being friends just because one of them took the other off their top 8 on myspace.

I'm just hoping people will grow out of this thing of throwing insults at one another for the music they listen to and how they look.

I fucking hate scene kids...

[stepinsideissue]

most of the sXe kids i've met so far seem like they're not really into it...just doing it because their friends heard about it and thought it sounded cool. So is it a good thing that Straight-Edge is becoming more and more known by the majority? Or is it bad that most people think of it as just a fad?


It's one of the longest running fads I've ever heard of then.

[stepinsideissue]

they said they were sXe, but then when we started talking about it, they didn't really know what it was, they just knew it was popular. And i'm working on my friends. It just kills me to know that there are so many people out there who are throwing their lives away for a moment of fake pleasure.


What is sXe. To you I mean?

[stepinsideissue]

i let them live through their mistakes and when they die i just say oh well he shouldn't have done that? that seems like it would make me a pretty shitty kind of person.


Honetly it's not all your problem kid. The weight of the world is not yours to bare. Let them live thier life. You're coming off very much like a preacher and thats not what sXe and hXc is about. It's admirable that you are concerend but it's nothing you or any of us can change. There are always going to be scene kids and emo kids at the shows weither we all like it or not. You don't nessesarily have to fully accept it but don't go around trying to force your belief structure on others either.

[xsecx]

I like how you kids use scene kid and trendy as if they're the same word.

[xRodboi!x]

last night i went to a show,and i saw that people were talkin' shit about me coz i had xs on my hands(i was the only edger over about 100 persons).A guy just said me that"these crosses are forbidden here".Then i thought that kind of reactions from people who aren't edge are conveyed by people like collin,who care too much about the other's choices about drugs and drinking.It gives a bad view of edgers.Straight edge should remain as a personal choice.For my part,i don't care what others do,all my friends smoke pots when they're with me and i don't bother them in any way.They think drug is cool and i don't.it ends up here.Straight edge isn't a drug program.

[collin]

ok sorry i was being dumb. i'm new to this scene, and i guess i just don't know how everything works yet. i'm learning, but i apologize.

[XThe EdgeX]

I wish everybody could just realize that you can be happy without chemical-induced euphoria....

Word, man!!!!!!

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

ok sorry i was being dumb. i'm new to this scene, and i guess i just don't know how everything works yet. i'm learning, but i apologize.

dude....just...the scene used to be edge, but now, it's drugs and sex. So don't worry haha.

[xbustedx]

dude....just...the scene used to be edge, but now, it's drugs and sex. So don't worry haha.

sorry....but I don't think this made any sense.

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

sorry....but I don't think this made any sense.

the "scene" (hardcore scene, if that's what you were unsure about) used to be sXe a few years ago. But all those kids that were part of the hardcore scene, who WERE sXe, turned to drugs and sex, as that's what the hardcore scene shifted into.

[xbustedx]

the "scene" (hardcore scene, if that's what you were unsure about) used to be sXe a few years ago. But all those kids that were part of the hardcore scene, who WERE sXe, turned to drugs and sex, as that's what the hardcore scene shifted into.


but those kids aren't and never were hardcore they are basically the "new" emo.

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

but those kids aren't and never were hardcore they are basically the "new" emo.

the "hardcore" scene, or what it's become (underoath...some shit like that. fagcore! ahha)
that's whom im refering to. Get it? Therefore, sXe isn't part of the scene anymopre

[xbustedx]

the "hardcore" scene, or what it's become (underoath...some shit like that. fagcore! ahha)
that's whom im refering to. Get it? Therefore, sXe isn't part of the scene anymopre


wait your saying sxe is part of the hardcore scene anymore or that sxe isnt part of the "scene" as what this thread is about scene?

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

wait your saying sxe is part of the hardcore scene anymore or that sxe isnt part of the "scene" as what this thread is about scene?

the second. the trendy scene.

[xbustedx]

the second. the trendy scene.


okay. The "trendy" scene was never part of sxe.

[SgtD]

the "scene" (hardcore scene, if that's what you were unsure about) used to be sXe a few years ago. But all those kids that were part of the hardcore scene, who WERE sXe, turned to drugs and sex, as that's what the hardcore scene shifted into.
what scene are you talking about? i never knew about a hardcore scene where everybody was edge and then everybody broke it. what's up with sex? you have a lot to read...

[SgtD]

the "hardcore" scene, or what it's become (underoath...some shit like that. fagcore! ahha)
that's whom im refering to. Get it? Therefore, sXe isn't part of the scene anymopre
says the guy who listens to bands like throwdown and bleeding through...
dude, you don't have any idea, straight edge is and has always been part of the hardcore scene.
keep up the homophobia, it makes you so much wiser!

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

says the guy who listens to bands like throwdown and bleeding through...
dude, you don't have any idea, straight edge is and has always been part of the hardcore scene.
keep up the homophobia, it makes you so much wiser!


um. First and foremost, I support homosexual marriage. I have a shirt that says that. Fagcore refers to cigarettes. English term I picked up from some of my friends. Sorry about that.

Okay. I don't think you see what's happening.

[straightXed]

um. First and foremost, I support homosexual marriage. I have a shirt that says that. Fagcore refers to cigarettes. English term I picked up from some of my friends. Sorry about that.

Okay. I don't think you see what's happening.

Sounds like a load of bollocks to me.

[stepinsideissue]

um. First and foremost, I support homosexual marriage. I have a shirt that says that. Fagcore refers to cigarettes. English term I picked up from some of my friends. Sorry about that.

Okay. I don't think you see what's happening.


... and I don't think you know whats going on now or ever has in the hXc music scene.

[SgtD]

um. First and foremost, I support homosexual marriage. I have a shirt that says that. Fagcore refers to cigarettes. English term I picked up from some of my friends. Sorry about that.

Okay. I don't think you see what's happening.
yeah, prince charles just told me about this, he's in the toilet now!

[XshiXnyX]

freinds dont let freinds be scene =(

[SgtD]

freinds dont let freinds be scene =(
i'm not quite sure what this sentence means, but the use of the word "scene" instead of "poser" irritates me. a lot.

[xbustedx]

um. First and foremost, I support homosexual marriage. I have a shirt that says that. Fagcore refers to cigarettes. English term I picked up from some of my friends. Sorry about that.

Okay. I don't think you see what's happening.


okay you are making about as much sense as a monkey riding a tricycle wearing a birthday hat.

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

freinds dont let freinds be scene =(


i agree ahahha

[stepinsideissue]

i'm not quite sure what this sentence means, but the use of the word "scene" instead of "poser" irritates me. a lot.


It's in referance to an American not drinking and driving campaign. Friends don't let friends drive drunk.

[stepinsideissue]

um. First and foremost, I support homosexual marriage. I have a shirt that says that. Fagcore refers to cigarettes. English term I picked up from some of my friends. Sorry about that.

Okay. I don't think you see what's happening.


I beleive you've been misinformed.

[King Andy]

...so i guess you would just have to say that if you're not gonna be 100% true to the cause, you should just stay out. that's not descrimination...

Wait, so who determines what 100% is? Whats the 'cause', are you talking overall sXe? If I dont listen to much hardcore stuff does that mean im not giving the 100%?

[xsecx]

Wait, so who determines what 100% is? Whats the 'cause', are you talking overall sXe? If I dont listen to much hardcore stuff does that mean im not giving the 100%?

if you don't listen to hardcore, how are you straight edge?

[King Andy]

if you don't listen to hardcore, how are you straight edge?

Well my best friend is into all the hXc stuff, and one day while we were talking he said i seem straight edge to him...i make the same choices that straight edge people do, the only difference between me and you (straight edge people) from what i've seen tonight, and read, is that while you are at a hardcore show in the mosh, im at a metal show in the mosh having a good time just like you. I don't use drugs, I dont drink... It just kind of seems like i am straight edge. This is also why I came here, is to learn more about sXe and hXc things. It just seems odd that you HAVE to listen to hardcore inorder to be straight edge.

[xsecx]

Well my best friend is into all the hXc stuff, and one day while we were talking he said i seem straight edge to him...i make the same choices that straight edge people do, the only difference between me and you (straight edge people) from what i've seen tonight, and read, is that while you are at a hardcore show in the mosh, im at a metal show in the mosh having a good time just like you. I don't use drugs, I dont drink... It just kind of seems like i am straight edge. This is also why I came here, is to learn more about sXe and hXc things. It just seems odd that you HAVE to listen to hardcore inorder to be straight edge.

hardcore is as much HOW you live as what you believe. straight edge is an entire culture that has been spread in large part by the music that's apart of it. to understand that culture you have to experience it, and the only way to do that is through the one thing that makes it really unique. the music.

[King Andy]

Well i see your point 100%, and i have listened to the music and am a little into it...I just rather listen to Metal. I guess Im not as much straight edge as i thought, but I am still going to think of myself as such...

[xvunderx]

Well i see your point 100%, and i have listened to the music and am a little into it...I just rather listen to Metal. I guess Im not as much straight edge as i thought, but I am still going to think of myself as such...

Why? If your not a part of the culture then what about you is edge? I can call myself a skin head, but I have no ties to that culture just like you have no ties to this?

Why can't people just make choices and be proud of them, your drug free and thats awesome, you like metal thats cool too, doesn't make you a mormon and it doesn't make you edge either.

[King Andy]

Why? If your not a part of the culture then what about you is edge? I can call myself a skin head, but I have no ties to that culture just like you have no ties to this?

Why can't people just make choices and be proud of them, your drug free and thats awesome, you like metal thats cool too, doesn't make you a mormon and it doesn't make you edge either.


Who knows, i may just be one of these 'scene kids' because i chose to lead a better lifestyle. Maybe im just 'healthy.'

[xvunderx]

Who knows, i may just be one of these 'scene kids' because i chose to lead a better lifestyle. Maybe im just 'healthy.'

Thing is, the thing that makes edge unique is the culture, but the thing that makes being drug free worth while is that it's a wise choice. A drug free person doesn't need to be apart of straight edge to be making a statement, and be living strongly by their own convictions.

So many kids get all pissy because they aren't edge but want the label (not saying you here) rather than accept they are who they are and be pround of that.

[King Andy]

Thing is, the thing that makes edge unique is the culture, but the thing that makes being drug free worth while is that it's a wise choice. A drug free person doesn't need to be apart of straight edge to be making a statement, and be living strongly by their own convictions.

So many kids get all pissy because they aren't edge but want the label (not saying you here) rather than accept they are who they are and be pround of that.


Well i came here tonight to learn more about the whole thing, and so far I have learned a tremendous amount. I also learned that I am really not that edge, just that I chose not to do the things that everyone has deemed 'cool' to do (partying with drugs and alc.). But this was why i came here tonight!

[xvunderx]

Well i came here tonight to learn more about the whole thing, and so far I have learned a tremendous amount. I also learned that I am really not that edge, just that I chose not to do the things that everyone has deemed 'cool' to do (partying with drugs and alc.). But this was why i came here tonight!

I know, there are just so many kids out their who will claim the label, find it doesn't fit them, and carry on using it any way to look cool to their friends. The come they learn they get pissy and then go about spreading more misinformation.

I've figured you to no be one of them, but those kids have become something of a pet peeve.

Have to say, having some one come to learn has been a refreshing change! So thanks for that (not being sarcastic)

[King Andy]

No problem, it just makes sence to understand the label that you are going to call yoursef - before you start to call yourself it. With the help of the board, I've come to the conclusion that I am a smart-metalhead :-p

[SgtD]

No problem, it just makes sence to understand the label that you are going to call yoursef - before you start to call yourself it. With the help of the board, I've come to the conclusion that I am a smart-metalhead :-p
you see, this is real rare, most of the time people want the label so bad, that even if they are proved wrong and they can't argue about it anymore, they just say: fuck you all, i am straight edge if you like it or not.
i'm glad you got the picture

[xJONNYSCREAMx]

No problem, it just makes sence to understand the label that you are going to call yoursef - before you start to call yourself it. With the help of the board, I've come to the conclusion that I am a smart-metalhead :-p

Right now mate, I respect you more than do half the other people. And me, I listen to as much, if not more metal, then I do listen to hardcore. I'm sXe and proud. But yeah...if you listen to some hardcore, then you are sXe. Just...be yourself, and you're hardcore hahahah