View Full Version : Is this right for an edge?
xpatchxrojasx
05-06-2007, 02:40 AM
Alright so i'm straight edge right? I dont drink, or smoke, or have casual sex. Heres the question, my dad want's me to study to do some bar work and i'm fine with that. just for the fun of it. you know, mix some drinks. this has alcohol of course. can i do bar work while i dont drink and be edge at the same time? or will this be contradicting?
straightXed
05-06-2007, 03:26 AM
Alright so i'm straight edge right? I dont drink, or smoke, or have casual sex. Heres the question, my dad want's me to study to do some bar work and i'm fine with that. just for the fun of it. you know, mix some drinks. this has alcohol of course. can i do bar work while i dont drink and be edge at the same time? or will this be contradicting?
Do you think it will be contradicting?
hardcoretta
05-06-2007, 01:23 PM
Do you think it will be contradicting?
I do.
straightXed
05-06-2007, 03:15 PM
I do.
then you can answer the question and it does seem like a question most people can answer themselves without asking others. I think its important to have established an understanding of what it is they stand for when they say straightedge, if they are fine with mixing drinks and condoning alcohol then thats great but they should look at how straightedge is a very anti alcohol stance. I think a better question would be how is it not contradicting?
S110111
05-06-2007, 03:34 PM
I personally think it goes against edge, because even if you're not consuming alcohol, you're still supporting the companies that makes the products.
PROPER JERK
05-07-2007, 12:52 AM
I dont really think you could be serving people drinks and be straight edge, it's like the same as being a drug dealer but saying your straight edge because you dont use the drugs. I'm not so much against the consumption of alcohol, I believe in freedom of choice but I wouldn't really feel comfortable selling alcohol to other people. It's up to you in the end though, if you feel you can be sxe and work in a bar mixing and serving drinks or even learning the skills to serve drinks then you should do it and you shouldn't get upset when other people give you shit about being sxe and working in a bar.
D1988
05-07-2007, 02:39 AM
You would be aiding the sale and consumption of a substance you apparently have a stance against. Do you think this is "Against Straight Edge"?
straightXed
05-07-2007, 04:21 AM
I dont really think you could be serving people drinks and be straight edge, it's like the same as being a drug dealer but saying your straight edge because you dont use the drugs. I'm not so much against the consumption of alcohol, I believe in freedom of choice but I wouldn't really feel comfortable selling alcohol to other people. It's up to you in the end though, if you feel you can be sxe and work in a bar mixing and serving drinks or even learning the skills to serve drinks then you should do it and you shouldn't get upset when other people give you shit about being sxe and working in a bar.
Nothing wrong with believing in freedom of choice but you don't have to think the choice is right, being straightedge elludes to you thinking the consumption of alcohol is wrong and an incorrect and falwed choice to make. This doesn't negate freedom of choice. And yes it is up to them but the question that was asked was "will this be contradicting?" or like i asked "how is it not contradicting?" and it is a contradiction, regardless of getting shit or being upset the fact is it is a contradiction, like a vegan working in an abottoir, not eating the meat doesn't excuse every other action that aides the meat industry.
hardcoretta
05-07-2007, 03:34 PM
I personally think it goes against edge, because even if you're not consuming alcohol, you're still supporting the companies that makes the products.
And people who drink alcohol.
S110111
05-07-2007, 05:06 PM
And people who drink alcohol.
Exactly. I mean, I think its even against edge to work at a bar, because the place itself is supporting the consumption of alcohol. Even if you're mopping the floors, or taking out the trash, you're still supporting a place where they sell alcohol.
hardcoretta
05-07-2007, 06:44 PM
Exactly. I mean, I think its even against edge to work at a bar, because the place itself is supporting the consumption of alcohol. Even if you're mopping the floors, or taking out the trash, you're still supporting a place where they sell alcohol.
Exactly.
straightXed
05-08-2007, 08:43 AM
Exactly. I mean, I think its even against edge to work at a bar, because the place itself is supporting the consumption of alcohol. Even if you're mopping the floors, or taking out the trash, you're still supporting a place where they sell alcohol.
so would you rule out working in a supermarket, resteraunt, hotel, airline etc?
xsecx
05-08-2007, 09:40 AM
so would you rule out working in a supermarket, resteraunt, hotel, airline etc?
apples to oranges. one is it's primary business, the others are secondary at best.
straightXed
05-08-2007, 12:06 PM
apples to oranges. one is it's primary business, the others are secondary at best.
so primary buisness is the decider rather than the fact a place sells alcohol.
xsecx
05-08-2007, 12:45 PM
so primary buisness is the decider rather than the fact a place sells alcohol. considering everything that you listed provides alcohol as a small part of their business, with the possible exception of restaurants , trying to compare them to bars or liquor stores isn't apples to apples.
straightXed
05-08-2007, 01:06 PM
considering everything that you listed provides alcohol as a small part of their business, with the possible exception of restaurants , trying to compare them to bars or liquor stores isn't apples to apples.
No, i accept that but they all do sell alcohol and to say its against straightedge to support a place where they sell alcohol would include them, and this is the statement that triggered my post. This is why i asked the question so as to clarify, and then endorsed the idea that primary buisness would probably make a better decider than the fact a place sells alcohol. I just wanted to ensure that we weren't saying that working in any of these other places meant you were somehow not edge, of course certain restaurants do make things a little less clean cut.
xANTI-HUMANx
05-09-2007, 03:36 PM
It's all up to your interpretation. If you don't know, then ask yourself a few questions, like for example, do you want to be condoning that?
I personally think it is, because after all, part of being a bartender is mixing drinks, and part of mixing drinks is taste-testing them, right?
xsecx
05-09-2007, 04:04 PM
It's all up to your interpretation. If you don't know, then ask yourself a few questions, like for example, do you want to be condoning that?
I personally think it is, because after all, part of being a bartender is mixing drinks, and part of mixing drinks is taste-testing them, right?
so if it wasn't, it would be?
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