What do u think about anarchism?? to my mind, its a very interesting political philosophy
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What do u think about anarchism?? to my mind, its a very interesting political philosophy
Could never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fake
Anarchism = nice idea in the abstract, in reality, it would just degenerate into a dog eat dog world, because there would always be those who don't respect others' freedom.
maybe its impossible
but i prefer anarchism more than politic of dictatorship
we can be out for it. for the new word. where everybody respect each other/
Its easy to say you prefer it without living in the reality of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fake
for communism, you need the perfect leader. for anarchism, you need perfect people.
One of my friends always goes on about anarchism, that it couldnt really exhist. Something about how once you sat your an anarchist you dont live by any rules but your living by the rule of NOT having rules so your not an anarchist anymore.
well thats what i picked up from what he was rambling!
the thought of anarchy is an interesting theory, but i dont think it would work
because it currently isn't a dog eat dog world and freedoms are 100% respected by governments the world over? get real, times are desperate in the system we have, why not look to a better alternative?Quote:
Originally Posted by XAdrenalineX
I think it should be the goal of humanity over a long period of time... we cant possibly have anarchism in the worlds current state. One misconception of anarchism is that its a world without rules, but rather its a system of society that functions without central government, rather by a system of voluntary cooperation. The key problem with this is the idea that all society will act for the greater good. Where as the bulk of humanity does indeed act with social conscience, taking the needs and rights of other human beings into consideration, there is a strong element of selfishness. Selfishness leads to crime and hardship for others. Where as a form of council will need to be developed to deal with crime, its not a huge leap before this becomes elected government. Once this leap is made, you have democracy. Not anarchism. The only remaining feature is economy. A barter system is unreliable, and a capitalist system leads to inequality. Even a socialist system left without a level of free market leads to inequality.
Should sum this up... Ehm... yeah it looks good on paper but cant happen anytime soon... We till need to evolve significantly as a species. Other than technology there hasnt really been a considerable amount of change in our species since or development of fire.... so yeah
I'm sorry but that is such a load of crap. We have governments, we have authority, and times are not desperate. Just because you don't like the way things are, doesn't mean times are desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by xGriffox
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Originally Posted by Sociocidal
I find that really interesting, I honestly admit that i didnt know that much about anarchism and what it envolves. I was like many others under the influence it was about the no rules thing :) I totally understand how, as human beings the way we are now it wouldnt work.
when you spoke of how the selfishment of others would lead to crime etc, it got me thinking about how quick people start looting and desroying things as soon as the opportunuty arrises. Makes me kind of sad in a way :/ ah well
says the person of privilege.Quote:
Originally Posted by mouseman004
please go to talk to someone who has no job, is looking at losing their home, or doesn't know how they will pay for their family's next meal and tell them "times aren't desperate". After that maybe you can stop being so self absorbed in thinking that everyone enjoys the same level of comfort and privilege as you do.
people loot and rob in a capitalistic society in order to further their own standing in said society by accumulating more capital from the fencing of said stolen good. What good would stealing a stereo be if you then couldn't sell it for money? And why would you steal a stereo from someone who was a member of your community who you knew personally and relied upon for your own survival?Quote:
Originally Posted by x.Xmiss_SmogX.x
Read this and i think some questions will be answered for you when it comes to why many advocate for anarchism and total self-"governance" and why it makes perfect sense to them.
Mutual Aid by Peter Kropotkin
http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist...dcontents.html
But this is you bringing things down to an individuals level.Quote:
Originally Posted by xGriffox
When you said times were desperate it made it look like you were talking about it on a much larger scale than times being desperate for individuals and their lives. I think this is what Mouseman was addressing, you should have maybe worded it better in the first place?
and what is beyond the desperation in the personal lives of people if that same case of desperation is multiplied at least a billion times over?Quote:
Originally Posted by D1988
times ARE desperate for most people in the world and most people do not enjoy the level of privilege and comfort of the middle to upper class of the first world. Times are desperate in terms of ecological devastation and the unchecked power with which capitalism allows these companies to destroy ecosystems and homes to both animals and the remaining non-civilized indigenous peoples. Times ARE desperate and to deny that is to be blind to anything beyond the privileged, first world, and oftentimes "white" way of looking at things.