duh!!!!Originally Posted by xflintsxfinestx
duh!!!!
Tears don't fall amd crash around me
let me make something clear, the courage crew IS a bunch of violent people who have to respect for anyone different from them, a few of my friends showed me this site and thought i'd have some opinions. i'm not edge myself but i have a huge respect for those who are.
I live in cincinnati and i have first hand experianced courage crew and their girlfriends many times. i have had a guy knock thru a crowd to slap a cigarette out of my mouth. i have had other moments when the guys have the decency not to hit females but instead they call their girlfriends out. i had to be carried out of the fish club in trenton ohio because i lit up a smoke outside, came back in and got punched in the face. i'm a very small girl and i'm only 5'0 tall. it was completely uncalled for.
courage crew is just an excuse to start violence and instill fear. straight edge is a way of life that i respect 100%. i have friends who are very close to me that are sxe. they come over while we're partying and will hang out while we act stupid. they respect the fact that we dont sport edge and we respect the fact that they do.
courage crew completely distroyed the idea of straight edge. the idea that drinking, smoking tobacco, and recreational drugs arent someones 'cup of tea'. it was started because the teen idles were almost denied into a club to play because they werent of drinking age. they werent there to get trashed, they were there to play music, so they offered up the idea of putting 'X's on the back of their hands to indecate that they werent old enough. the scene just grew from there. not because it was a fashion trend or because people wanted to stand out, people just plain wanted to live life and do the things they love with out the drugs and drinking that was most commonly precived in the punk genre. it picked up speed and was a great influence on a large chunk of 'punk rock youth'. but somehow this good influence has led to a group of people finding it nessecery to be a bunch of nazis.
why would you call someone a name and expect them not to retaliate? maybe not a punch to the face, but a confrontation would be expected.
Oh I totally agree, but I don't understand the violence part of it. I've just seen over the top retaliations when someone has said something like "dude don't be a douchebag".
I guess someone would have to do something over the top ridiculous to me for me to even think of violence.
Last edited by linsee; 04-29-2009 at 10:50 PM.
we arent nazis. i dont hate jews
well of course that would be fine but if it would have been one of us who called you friend an asshole and he hit one of us i bet your story would change
Shockingly enough, fighting isn't something myself or my friends do to react to words. I don't hang out with people that use their fists first. My friends use their heads.
I hate to break it to you, but there is a large number of the population who don't think fighting or throwing a punch is an option unless they are being physically attacked and want to defend themselves.
I agree,
Im not sure what to think about this, ive been reading through the whole thread trying to figure out my opinion of it. I personally think that yes, some members of CXC may have been assholes or beat on people for stupid reasons, but i wouldnt want to judge a whole crew on the actions of those individuals. I can however see how this would give a general opinion of a groupe of people if some of them are doing these things.
I dont think violence is the answer, and picking fights just for the sake of fighting is wrong! Yeah going to shows and looking out for kids and stuff is great but there is a line where it goes from helping out to bullying.
I personally havent met anyone from courage crew, and i suppose ill make up my mind if i meet any, but then again my opinion would be on the individual not the whole crew. Lets just hope i dont get a smack in the mouth :P
when you choose to associate with a group, you take responsibility at least on some level of the actions of members of that group. Why wouldn't you judge a crew based on the actions of their members, since as demonstrated on here, the actions are at least supported by others and it's a common shared attitude?
Why would it change, its still a really dumb way to react and sensible people generally don't condone that regardless of who it is. I have distanced myself from people i was friends with because i couldn't condone their behaviour...so of course you are wrong...again.
Others walk the bow, I walk the string
that comment just makes you an ignorant moron.
thank you.
i agree that if you call someone an asshole out of nowhere, they're going to confront you, or at least they should. but to throw a punch with out a conversation is jus barbaric.
this proves my point. some people really do think violence is always the first options where as my friends and i'm sure alot of others on this site agree that violence is a very last resort. if you call my friend or me an asshole out of no where, you can bet that they/i will say something to you. but i refuse to hit you. obviously theres a reason why you said that, and i'd want to know why. if you just did it to a an arrogant prick then yeah, i'm probably going to get pist, and if you continue, i'm probably gonna lose my cool, but not everyone jumps at the first chance to hit someone..
figures that this comment came from someone who stated that they're a courage crew member.
fuckin right!!!!
Tears don't fall amd crash around me
Just because you keep saying that the story would change if the situation was reversed, doesnt make it true. Beleive it or not, there are people out there who are smarter than you who would react differently in similar situations.
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