im just curious where exactly did you see all these kids get beat up by courage crew?Originally Posted by linsee
im just curious where exactly did you see all these kids get beat up by courage crew?
I saw something recent, the kid claims to be Courage Crew, I have no idea what makes it official and what doesn't. It's not just the city of Chicago, it's the suburbs and other areas in Illinoise and Iowa. I'm not going into details because I don't feel like being harassed.
I've been going to shows for well over 10 years, I've seen a lot of random things. I don't exactly have a diary I can pull out and give you the exact names and locations.
so in all honesty you have no idea if what you seen was courage crew or not yet you will get on here an came we did it. and who is going to harass you? i f we did it we did it. but dont come on here and claim you have seen all this horrible shit and blame it on us if you dont even know. and if you have been going to shows for ten yrs and you dont know who is who that is strange.
So hold on, if someone is claiming they are courage crew, how is one supposed to know if they are or aren't?
In all honesty, if someone is claiming they are courage crew (fuck knows why anyone would want to do that) it gives the idea that they are courage crew.
I have to ask, why do you think so many people have a negative impression of courage crew based on things they have seen?
Others walk the bow, I walk the string
No, the kid claims to be Courage Crew, everyone says he is. So I'm going with yes, he is. People talk a lot of shit and I'm not going to get myself involved in stuff so that the next time I see this kid, or a friend of his, they won't bother me or try to get me involved in all this shit.
I avoid interacting with people that are Courage Crew or hang out with them, so why in the world would I know who any of them are if I see them randomly and not frequently? There's dudes around now that weren't 10 years ago, let alone 5. I don't actively get involved with them, or want to pay attention to them forced to. Sorry I don't have the latest roster of Courage Crew players hanging on my wall so I can memorize faces with names, sheesh.
You have no fucking clue what I have or haven't seen. You have no idea what kind of person I am. So if you don't believe me, then you don't. I don't give a shit. I'm not going to back down from what I've stated, it's what I've seen and it's the truth. Arguing with me isn't going to change that.
you are so angry
i believe that most people over exaggerate and just figure that every asshole who is straightedge and gets in a fight is courage crew. i dont think any of you have ever even met any of us and really only base your idea of us on what you have heard or read. and if you want to know if someone is courage crew or not ask them. no one is going to beat you up for asking a question. but if you are too scared to ask most courage crew will being wearing dog tags and usually some form of shirt or hoodie or jacket that says courage crew. we dont hide who we are that way it is easy to tell who we are.
i got a question for you. why would you wanna talk shit on something you dont understand or even know about?
why do you avoid courage crew? and no one is saying you should have a roster of people but if you are all involved in hardcore as much as you say you are you should know who is around and what is going on around you in your scene. you are the one who bragged about going to shows for 10 yrs. and in all actuality chicago is an FSU city. so you really arent going to see alot of us running around and fighting people in other peoples cities to the level that you are making out to be. so i am calling bullshit
So if someone says they are courage crew we assume they are until you tell us they aren't. Its not exactly exageration when people are calling themselves courage crew, its not my fault that lots of other assholes get lumped in with courage crew but if the things that i and others are basing their opinions on is the actions of people actively calling themselves courage crew then i feel theres not much to ask them. If you tell me they aren't courage crew then so be it but i don't want to interact with them and if these people calling themselves courage crew are giving you a bad name why not deal with it in an appropiate courage crew fashion. I'm not about to ask someone that calls themselves courage crew if they are courage crew, it really has nothing to do with being scared its simply that i just disagree with the stance, the attitude and just think it seems like slightly volotile meatheads mascerading as somekind of positive force. It doesn't endear me to interacting with them, i mean i interact with you and thats painful enough!!
I base my opinion on the information i am given, you yourself have fucked up and idiotic ideas in my opinion and i just put that opinion forward, if you give me different information my opinion will change but as it stands i still see courage crew as a negative thing. I have read your posts and how you explain courage crew to be something different to what we all think but the point is, even with your explanation of it i think you are wrong and the whole idea of courage crew is just pointless. So what you are essentially asking here is why would i express my opinion, the question i ask you is why the hell shouldn't i? Does a differing opinion make you that uneasy that you would rather i either said courage crew is great or say nothing at all...thats simply not going to happen so i sincearly hope that is not the case. I hope this answers your question?
Others walk the bow, I walk the string
I never said I was "soooo into hardcore" or so into the scene or whatever. I said I have been going to shows for over 10 years, they're far and few between anymore, I don't go to a lot because I have a career and not a lot of time to travel to Chicago, Milwaukee, Iowa City, or anywhere in between. I wouldn't call that bragging, I'm just stating something about myself. I don't pay attention to people that I don't hang out with, I don't care what they're doing unless they're hurting one of my friends. I'm not into the bro-down mentality, I have a vagina and a brain. You can call it whatever you want, I don't care. I really doubt anyone else on this board cares either.
so first you used the whole ive been going to shows for 10 yrs as a validation to your accusations of courage crew and now you are backing out because you have a career. so in other words you are full of shit. nothing you said was true. and sorry to say hardcore is a "bro-down mentality" it always has been. so you are just talking shit on people you dont know for the hell of it. How many of you friends have been beat up by courage crew? just be honest you dont know of anyone personally around you that has been beat up by courage crew. you keep saying now that you dont care but that is just because your so called valid point has no truth to it.
basing your opinion on a bunch of people who dont know shit about what they are talking about is almost as ignorant as talking shit on things you dont know.
Yeah, well like i say i based my opinion on things you have said also...if you are saying you don't know shit about it then fine but i'm thinking you just chose to omit that part of my reply because you want to talk shit.
You just seem to find it hard to accept that people think your ideas are nonsense but i do, i've never heard one redeeming thing about courage crew from you or anyone else. If you want to make that all about me and my shortcommings, well thats just fine but its not really the case. I just think you should accept that i don't agree with courage crew based on the shit that you come out with as well as what people i know and trust have seen as well as encounters with other courage crew members online - Although of course they could just be saying they are courage crew and you will probably tell me they aren't really courage crew. Of course, i can't be sure you are either!
Now, i said this before but perhaps you missed it, if you can give me a decent reason to think differently about courage crew then i will. But if you, an alleged member of courage crew, can't do that then perhaps you shouldn't refer to it as ignorance on my part and rather see it as fact that lots of people do not agree with your train of thought on these matters.
Others walk the bow, I walk the string
you know the whole gang mentality thing I was talking about previously? That factors into this entire discussion. Fear of violent repercussions keeps people from talking openly and honestly about stuff they've seen. This allows you to call bullshit because people don't feel comfortable sharing specifics out of fear that it will stir up some shit that they'd rather not deal with but that doesn't necessarily mean it's bullshit or made up.
Not entirely sure on this...could someone elaborate on exactly what is meant by bro-down mentality?
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